An introductory SEBCID Public Meeting, was held at Kronendal Primary School on 14 August 2018 and was well attended by residents from the Scott Estate and Baviaanskloof areas. The purpose of the meeting was to engage with the homeowners, inform all of what a CID is, how it operates and to share the results of the recent Urban Management survey. Whilst every effort has been made to answer questions on the night and subsequent emails, some questions will only be able to be answered more comprehensively once the next step is completed, i.e. business plan and budget.
The presentation was followed by a Question and Answer session which you can read below the slides.
We cannot use money from our CID for other areas. The use of cameras will allow us to see when a crime is being committed. We can prevent crime by improving our community. 20% of people in our community contribute to HBNW. We are noted as being the best area for contributions, but we cannot only rely on 20% of the community making these contributions. CCP who runs Watchcon, is a professional company and cannot only rely on donations. Would love to see an integrated CID for the whole of Hout Bay, but if you start off too large the aims and budget would be too large and will be unmanageable. We need to start off in a smaller area where the aims and objectives are common.
CCT has a clear process to determine those eligible for rates relief. We have looked carefully into Llandudno – initially the committee was convinced that they could deliver on the objectives on a very low budget. The numbers they presented to the community were way lower than what was needed for them to deliver, so they had to go back to the community to say that they were underfunded and had to ask for more money. Important to note that CCT sets a maximum rate increase of 25%, but we are not suggesting that this will be the number that we will go to.
One has to balance the increase costs against the benefits that one is going to achieve from this. This is not about what the Steering Committee wants, but what the community wants. We need feedback from everybody so that we can work on the budget and costs and present the numbers to the community so that a vote can take place. CCT must also approve the budget.
The key reason for not asking in the survey if respondents supported the CID was because until the survey was completed and a budget developed, we would not have been able to tell the community what the costs would be – ie it is too early in the process for the community to make an informed decision.
We cannot answer what is going to happen in the future, but we can say what has happened in the past. In the past 2 months Penzance has had 1 house break-in and SE has had multiple. Our objective is to have more cameras with improved monitoring, more patrolling to make it more difficult for crime to hit a softer target. We need to take pride in our area. Reference the safety improvements made to Seapoint since 2002 thanks to the introduction of CID.
As soon as a CID is formed, and every homeowner registers to become a member of the CID, they can at any point in time request an EGM and call for a vote to be held. Of the 41 existing CIDs in CT there are many that are already into their 2nd and 3rd terms. Thus far, not one single area has not voted to renew their CID.
In an ideal world we would like to find a solution for all in Hout Bay, unfortunately, these issues fall out of the SEB community. Ideally there would be more CIDs in the Hout Bay area that we could work together with, but it would be unrealistic to assume that the SEBCID would be able to fix all of these problems.
Initially we need to deter crime in our area and in the long term we would like to be able to deal with the social issues that cause it. This is not what the CID can do at the onset.
Refer to SEBCID Geographical Area
We prefer not to speculate on budgets at this stage.
Any increased spend will hopefully make a difference given it will be 100% focused on our area. We do not know what the specific budget will be yet, but we will be fully transparent on the CID budget and we will hold the CCT accountable for all the services that they should provide for the community under basic rates. We have had extensive communication with CCT and they are very comfortable with the proposed size of our CID.
We need to cost these things in the context of an overall plan for the Community. A wide variety of camera technologies were discussed, will discuss these options with the security companies. Important to integrate the network of cameras and security forces.
We can deter crime, we can displace crime, but in the long term we would like to find a solution to work with all areas of Hout Bay. Most of us don't feel safe and we can address that we don't feel safe, but we cannot address the broader social issues at this point.
Yes, the CID will take responsibility for the whole area, but it should not stop you from contributing to these organizations too.
Once the CID is in place, bear in mind that the integrated video camera monitoring program will offer individual streets significant savings over what they are funding on their own today. There should be significant economies of scale when the CID brings the community together.
The City has a dedicated department looking after CIDs and they are performing as a dedicated hot line to the City with our requests. Areas with a CID in place should have a louder voice with the City than those without.
R128 of our rates go to public safety with the City. 20% of the community actually pays HBNW. Everybody needs to contribute and support, there cannot be any free riders.
Resident discussed effectiveness of dog patrol units. He spoke about living in an SRA in JHB where in the end 359 out of 360 homes contributed to the SRA. He felt safe living there, but, was assaulted with a gun in the suburb next door. He feared for his children.
46% was actually a very good result in the context that CCT only requires 20% of survey responses. Worth noting also that survey results at the 20% response rate were very similar to those at the 40% response rate. However, ideally we would like every resident to complete the survey so please continue to spread the word, ask everyone to reach out to friends and neighbours to complete the survey which is still on line, we need as much feedback as possible.
The meeting ended with a resident thanking the Steering Committee for their dedication and efforts thus far and acknowledging that it can't be easy.